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  Evolutionary establishment tactics

  by hooberus in

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  wednesday evenings (august 24th) fox news program "the oreilly factor" featured an interview life after "intelligent design" with dr. richard sternberg, editor, of the peer-reviewed journal "proceedings of the biological society of washington.

  " dr. sternberg's home page discusses the recriminations he faced by certain members of the evolutionary establishment after publishing an arcticle by another person advocating the possibilty of intelligent design in the peer reviewed journal.

  http://www.rsternberg.net/

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  Shining One

  Hi Hooberus,
  
  I have never, ever seen Alan admit he even might be wrong. He's the kind of person that says, "I thought I was wrong once but I made a mistake." All of the insults and arrogance has tripped him up in the past and continues to do so. Thanks for the great link.
  Rex
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  US & lack of historical perspective for JWs?

  by rebel8 in

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  hopefully i can explain what i'm talking about here.. a few yrs after i left the jws, i went to college and spent a semester abroad.

  the combo of studying world history, along with seeing historical stuff in person and exposure to new cultures really led me to realize even deeper how egocentric/ethnocentric the jw belief system is.

  by that, i mean: everything centers around white americans.

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  Shining One

  Sir82, that's so good!
  Rex
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  Disaster Relief news and links....

  by Shining One in

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  no comment needed, help as you are able to... .

  http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?id=21486 .

  https://secure1.salvationarmy.org/donations.nsf/donate?openform&projectid=usn-hurricane05 .

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  Shining One

  No comment needed, help as you are able to...
  
  http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?ID=21486
  
  https://secure1.salvationarmy.org/donations.nsf/donate?openform&projectid=USN-hurricane05
  
  Rex
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  WT Prays for LA Storm victims

  by JT in

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  this morning at brooklyn bethel, patterson and wt farms the governing body offered a prayer in behalf of all of the citizens in the la area.

  that jehovah provide the needed protection for all citizens who will be impacted.. .

  the gb prayed that those who would be risking their lives, such as essential personeel will have the needed strength to help all citizens.. .

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  Shining One

  Christians are indeed mobilized. The Salvation Army is going to feed 400,000 and the Southern Baptists are all ready to go in, when the authorities let them.
  
  http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?ID=21486
  
  Rex
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  Very Bad Apologetics For Honest Seekers

  by AlanF in

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  god had no beginning, so god did not need to be made.. .

  if our local space-time universe is uncreated, then of course it is meaningless to ask who created it.

  of course, everything that had a beginning had a beginner.

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  Shining One

  Hi Terry,
  >I'm staying on the fence until I have either a visitation with divine light or I'm struck dead by a thunderbolt
  
  Good for you! I'm totally serious about that. There is hope, take a look at John 9 or Acts 9. BTW, did you know that Martin Luther gave his life to God when he was almost struck by lightning? I think that is so cool. God Bless.
  Rex
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  Very Bad Apologetics For Honest Seekers

  by AlanF in

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  god had no beginning, so god did not need to be made.. .

  if our local space-time universe is uncreated, then of course it is meaningless to ask who created it.

  of course, everything that had a beginning had a beginner.

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  Shining One

  You still won't leave your comfy home to debate any real scholars. You still make the same excuses and hurl the same insults. I don't need to.
  Rex
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  Cooking with Rutherford

  by VM44 in

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  long before there was julia childe....there was the judge!.

  cooking with rutherford.. i wonder what he is fixing for dinner?.

  bon appetit!.

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  Shining One

  I'll bet that whatever he was cooking, he did so with bourbon...wine if it was before noon.
  Rex
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  Evolutionary establishment tactics

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wednesday evenings (august 24th) fox news program "the oreilly factor" featured an interview life after "intelligent design" with dr. richard sternberg, editor, of the peer-reviewed journal "proceedings of the biological society of washington.

  " dr. sternberg's home page discusses the recriminations he faced by certain members of the evolutionary establishment after publishing an arcticle by another person advocating the possibilty of intelligent design in the peer reviewed journal.

  http://www.rsternberg.net/

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  Shining One

  Here it is, everyone, read this below and see the arrogance of the liberal, leftist, elitists that we have to deal with! From AlanF:
  
  >So what? The lawyer who investigated this is a Bush-administration appointed lawyer who obviously has the same political agenda as have so many others of Bush's political appointees -- to push a right-wing, creationist agenda.
  
  Bush is a moderate. He is in the 'mainstream'. Observe that Alan promotes the idea that anyone who disagrees with the lib agenda is somehow corrupt. He makes 'Bush' and 'creationists' the issue and not justice.
  
  >I've pointed this out several times now. You didn't have the moral or intellectual wherewithal to comment on that. Why?
  
  There it is again. This is a form of intellectual abuse that models the cult's spiritual abuse....
  
  >On the other hand, I pointed out that Sternberg's employers -- the Smithsonian staff and the governing council of the Proceedings journal -- directly stated that his actions were unethical. This is the only judgment that counts.
  
  Ahhh, so the 'altruistic' staff and council are the 'good guys' here. They defend the truth as the libs see it, never mind the evidence and the later outcome! Here is what Alan mean't, "The Governing Body alone has the ethics and merit needed to judge this matter. Don't listen to apostates who teach lies, it's spiritual pornography".
  
  >This is supported by the fact that many of his fellows have made the same judgment by refusing to work with him. Anyone whose fellow workers refuse to work with for moral reasons obviously has a much better handle on the situation than you, or I, or any politically motivated political appointee.
  
  "Fellows" read that as 'naturalists' (those who have the agenda and corruption). They have no moral ethics when it comes to any heresy that denies naturalist claims. Circular reasoning and shunning will therefore rule the day. Go Watchtower, eh Alan!
  Rex
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  Evolutionary establishment tactics

  by hooberus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wednesday evenings (august 24th) fox news program "the oreilly factor" featured an interview life after "intelligent design" with dr. richard sternberg, editor, of the peer-reviewed journal "proceedings of the biological society of washington.

  " dr. sternberg's home page discusses the recriminations he faced by certain members of the evolutionary establishment after publishing an arcticle by another person advocating the possibilty of intelligent design in the peer reviewed journal.

  http://www.rsternberg.net/

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  Shining One

  >I didn't say you were stupid -- people are free to come to that conclusion on their own or reject it. I said that your remarks were stupid, and then I proceeded to demonstrate it. And of course, by failing to deal with my arguments, you've just reinforced my demonstration.
  AlanF
  
  What a load of bull, Alan. You claim that everyone has to answer your typical assertions down to every nuance or 'Alan wins'? LOL, What if they can't win either way? You never admit you are wrong, you constantly apply a rule of law to everyone, when in practice you make the rules 'as you go' for yourself!
  Ad hominem, poisoning the well and arrogance are your consistent tactics. People get tired of answering you because you never quit and it takes too much time to fan away your smoke screen.
  Rex
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  Very Bad Apologetics For Honest Seekers

  by AlanF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  god had no beginning, so god did not need to be made.. .

  if our local space-time universe is uncreated, then of course it is meaningless to ask who created it.

  of course, everything that had a beginning had a beginner.

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  Shining One

  I'm sorry you had to resort to personal attacks, Dave. No, I am not offended. Look at it this way: When you are kicked by a jack-ass there is no need to be angry. The beast is just being true to his nature! LOL
  Rex